I agree with some above that Motions is a very creative ‘concept’ and I absolutely love performing it, as much as people love seeing the routine.

and make a decent video before calling people like andrei and Bone “noobs”

… i think mr.Bigfan Monobrow is grumpy… do you need a hug?

It looks like you really are pissed at this with all that swearing, calm down man, it’s just cards. You know what they say about internet fight…

Your whole attitude would really make some sense if we were talking about 9mms rather than pasteboards.

You are welcome here but next time bring some R-E-S-C-E-P-T-O ;)

Peace.

Man once and for all, here is the shit.
Buck Twins, Asher Dicks, whatever the fuck man.

You know where this shit started? All your ‘modern’ ass flourishing started with Brian Tudor bringing a storm in the underground usa community.
Some ripoffs take his concept and start to fuck them up, of well some are good, but dude, he doesn’t get shit except for credit.
THE ONE HAND REVOLUTION cut is a masterpiece. now people label it classic and make tutorials on the internet and on DVD’s like the trilogy.
Thumb fan? Classic? STFU/.

There have been certain very subtle improvements to concepts over the years and Jerry did a fine ass job doing all that shit?

Bone Ho and Andrei can simply fuck off. ‘he did not steal my grip’. what the fuck are you talking about.

De’vo’s being doing this shit since ages man. He knows his shit.
Then andrei pops up saying bullshit like I invented the flipback triad? Nigga the next thing you gunna say is you invented the DC?
Fucking noob.

And his limitations are obvious. Look at the fucked up way he does the triad, its like an insult.
Quad with two hands lol. Flipback quad with 2 hands lol. Funny man. Use your dick next time to support the packets Andrei, probably a .5 cm shit or some shit.

And the he goes and markets the flipback charlier done the short hand method, on t11?
And t11 without any research done publishes the fuck out of the move to make money? fuck money but still.

11 artists? What the fuck happened to respecting Artists then? Cardistry? Without the godfathers of cardistry?
You fucked up hypocrites can fuck off.
and @ Cuso, no offense nigga but your marketing ass website draws too much controversy towards HL and disrespect to HL .

Now actually we don’t give a fuck you can say you invented ‘this move and that move’, keep on saying your shit. I just had to make things clear.
I’m not hating on anyone, I love everyone who is creative, but those who claim they invented the move someone else actually invented, they can really fuck off and not deserve to be in the community.
Infact they should be banned from all communities.
Personal Discovery and Inventing a new concept are totally different things.
Personal discovery is something you might have stumbled upon but the core concept already exists.
Or you just make a variation of an already existing concept, which you may have read somewhere before.

@ Andrei, if you wouldn’t have read about the flipback triad on HL forums, there was no way a noob like you could have comeup with a fucked up variation.

Peace